长篇影评
1 ) 转载女主角Dree Hemingway关于电影的访谈
很喜欢这部片子和Dree 转载访谈,帮助理解片子台前幕后,没看错av场面果然是替身然后剪得真不错。好有趣的制作过程耶,原来去参加色情业展会是真的,使用隐藏拍摄,很多人以为女主就是pornstar然后各种~~ 哈哈,不过no judgement也是棒棒哒。dree也聊到很多关于自己家族的事情,喜欢她的低调单纯,而且做出了一部好片子,这是我看她的第一部,很偶然找到的。翻译就不做了,我觉得最直接的理解是看原文,给几个关键词,有兴趣的自己理解。
body double 替身;improvisational 即兴的;scatterbrained
注意力不集中
The young actress talks to THR about her burgeoning acting career as well as how she copes with bearing the last name of one of the world's most famed writers.
正文
As much as she'd probably like to avoid it, the first line in Dree Hemingway's biography probably would note that she is the great-granddaughter of famed writer Ernest Hemingway and the daughter of actress Mariel Hemingway. But with a few more movies like Starlet, her first leading feature role, that just might change.
Hemingway, 25, plays Jane, a flighty, listless woman in her early 20s living in Los Angeles with her friend and the friend's boyfriend. She flits about through her days, smoking weed and shopping and taking her Chihuahua wherever she goes. She might seem like a low-rent Paris Hilton, but she has more depth than it appears at first glance.
Film Review: Starlet
When she buys a thermos for a dollar at a yard sale from an old woman, she finds $10,000 rolled up inside. After trying to return the thermos to the cantankerous octogenarian, who refuses, she decides to at least befriend the lonely widow, Sadie. This is easier said than done, though the two eventually form an odd relationship. It is one built partially on lies; Jane doesn't tell Sadie about the money, or the fact that she works as a porn actress -- something kept from the audience through much of the movie, as well.
THR recently spoke to Hemingway about the film and her famous bloodlines.
The Hollywood Reporter: What happened in your interview with director Sean Baker?
Dree Hemingway: I’m so passionate about this character, but a lot of it was how I perceived her and who I thought she was and to clarify if I’d do the porn scene. And really wanting to assure me that they’d use a body double and just wanting to make sure I’d be comfortable with the whole situation. And everything he was saying about the character was something I had thought of, and there were things that I wanted to bring, and it was really nice. And what really hooked it was the communication between us.
THR: So you weren’t uncomfortable with the porn thing?
Hemingway: I mean, it freaked me out, I’m not going to lie. I think I was so passionate about the whole story that it’s kind of something that it needed. It freaked me out, but also knowing that it wasn’t me was kind of OK for me -- although I’m not in denial that people are going to think it’s me because a lot of people don’t watch the end credits, and it’s really well cut. But as much as it scares me, and is such a scary thing to do, it’s such a neat film that I think that one ending scene is kind of the most perfect ending for any movie, and I just love it. … I’m not a huge fan of porn, but I really wanted to embrace the world from a different perspective, where it’s not a tragedy, it’s not coming from a tragic place.
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THR: How much of the film was improv?
Hemingway: Most of it was improvisational, to be honest. It was like, we were given some lines, and you always had to know where you were going to end up in the scene, but a lot of it was improvisational. A lot of it was scary in a way that you can’t really craft. But it’s actually one of the most fun things I’ve ever done. You really have to be present in the situation that you’re in because a lot of time you were working with real people, who didn’t know until they were done working with us that they were on film and working with actors.
THR: Which points were that?
Hemingway: The whole entire porn convention. We had a hidden camera. I had a hidden mic. People thought I was a real porn star at a real booth. All those people talking to me.
THR: So they were just big porn enthusiasts.
Hemingway: They all kept coming up to me and saying: “I really love your movies. I want to work with you.” And I was like, 'Let’s go!' It’s so weird and crazy. And all those people playing bingo, we just stood in the bingo hall.
THR: Was anyone upset about being caught on camera?
Hemingway: A lot of people at the porn convention were really upset that they were on camera. Some of them were like parents, and some of these guys were like, “I’m a schoolteacher.” And you’re like, OK. … But the thing is, there is no judgment on them because they are just the ones that have the balls to get their asses off the computer and go to an actual porn convention. Which I have to say is kind of hilarious and really fun.
THR: Really?
Hemingway: Yeah. It’s an adult amusement park.
THR: It’s like a Comic-Con but for porn.
Hemingway: Exactly! It’s just like Comic-Con. You get some whacked, crazy people, but it’s so much fun. I think if you come to it from a point of not taking it seriously -- a lot of these people go, and they’re there to see one porn star whom they’re obsessed with -- but if that’s not your basis, it is a fun time. It’s hilarious.
THR: What would you do if you found that money, in that situation?
Hemingway: Oh, I’m such a guilty person, I’d totally give it back.
THR: No hesitation?
Hemingway: I mean obviously, I think that part of me would want to keep it in a way because it’d be like, oh I found it, and it’s -- what is that saying? Finder's keepers? But no, even if I’d try to do that, I’m too guilty. I remember when I was 14, I stole a little bracelet from a vendor, like an outside cart vendor, it was me being rebellious, and I had a lot of friends who loved to steal ChapSticks and little things, and so it was me trying to include myself in the situation. So I stole this bracelet. And I had it for a full day, but I couldn’t wear it because I felt so guilty. So when I wasn’t with my friends, I went and brought it back.
THR: So you are Ernest Hemingway’s great-granddaughter? Did you ever feel pressure to be a writer?
Hemingway: I would never write, ever. I might as well exile myself.
THR: Why?
Hemingway: Because it’s like, if I were related to Monet, I don’t know if I would be comfortable becoming an artist because it’s too much, the comparison. If I wrote a book and put it out, the comparison to my great-grandfather, the comparison would be hilarious. Every critic, it would be their dream, they’d tear me apart. I’m just not a confident writer, either. I feel like I can’t make sense of things in a way. I’m so scatterbrained when I write.
THR: Do people ask you to?
Hemingway: People ask me all the time. And my mother is an actress, and my aunt Margaux was a model. And it’s funny, as much as I’m all about I’m my own person, and I’m making my own name for myself, I have grown up in a world where most of these people who are like me are children of famous parents. So it’s easy to become the socialite and be famous for that. But my whole thing was, as much as I was inspired by what my parents do, and growing up on film sets, watching that made me really want to do that. I am my own person, and I think that the only thing with the Hemingway name is that it has gotten me in the door. But once you’re in there, I know I’m under a huge microscope, and everything you do, people are going through it with a fine-toothed comb and picking at you.
So it’s great, it gets you in there, but once you do, you’ve got to f---ing prove yourself. The modeling, I think it’s different because they don’t give a f---, it’s harder to get in there with a name already, and I think I had to prove myself, and it didn’t matter who I was. But I don’t feel like I’m competing against anything in my family; I’m so honored to be a part of it, but I also know I am my own self, and I’m not riding anyone’s coattails because I know I really worked for something.
2 ) 蔷薇
虽然没有到达要强力推荐的地步,
但是电影人物的过于真实的表现,
或者说摇晃的镜头,给人一种真实感,
摄影和演员最大程度的给题材以真实感,因此而令人感动吧
突然穿插的AV 拍摄镜头令人大吃一惊
看样子是真枪实弹。
一个不出名的小AV女优,和一个孤独的老太太
一个人的职业和地位,并不能影响她为陌生人付出爱
哪怕一开始,是出于非法占有了老太太的钱
而感到的心里不安。
jane的朋友,以及她的男朋友
算是那种不正当行业里又不正经的人吧
故事引进这两个人的存在
更加突出了女主角的性格和内心世界
但是Melissa在发现jane拥有一笔财富后却并没有私自拿走
而是静坐着等jane能将这笔钱花给melissa自己。
倒是令我挺意外的。
可能是因为站在中国人的角度,觉得剧情发展到这里了
Melissa这种饰演坏女人的角色肯定会拿走钱然后女主角彻底无法跟老太太交代。
跨文化的差异果然显得我特别狭隘啊。
melissa自大的认为全世界都应该为她效劳,
但是嘴脸却并没有难看到哪里去,
这也是电影令人看起来特别真实的地方之一。
没有人是彻底的坏人
她只是性格比较奇特
或者脾气比较特别
大众的小众的接受能力不一样而已
最后老太太没有告诉jane,melissa特地前来捅破窗纸告诉她钱的事。
老太太知道了jane 靠近她和她做朋友的原因
反而不再疑惑,并且接受了这份特别感情。
蔷薇带刺,花美好
说的到底是谁呢?
3 ) AV女优和孤独寡妇的情感故事
《AV女优和孤独寡妇的情感故事》,反正我一下就想到了这个标题,像是路边摊两三元一本的三俗小说的封面故事。但并非想说这片子也是这般。
片子总体上采用极为写实的叙事手法,配乐没有刻意拉动情绪,多数采用后摇般的清新曲调,情感与人物内心都在对话表情和语气中体现。跟随生动的人物形象,观众的思绪也由奔逸四散逐渐进入到影片当中。
来看看人物形象吧。
美丽的姑娘Jane,虽然从事AV行业,却意外地让人觉得单纯善良。
不约炮,不滥交。虽然张闭口都有"Fuck",虽然有时和室友Melisa扒扒水烟飞飞叶子,终于是环境使然,美丽的心灵从不会被这些所掩盖。
她从老妇人Sadie那儿买来的二手水瓶中发现了一万大钞,并由此结识老妇人,和老妇人成为忘年交。
刚开始,我以为Jane只是因为老妇人有钱,接近她只为图财。渐渐地,我想也许是因为她拿了Sadie的钱而心中有愧,想靠帮助老人来获取良心安宁。无论开始是否心中有愧,我想后边一定是友谊使得Jane陪伴着老人。
接送老人去超市,带老人去动物园,和老人相互分享生活,让Sadie照顾Starlet,都具有亲人老友般的信任和关怀。
Jane不交男友,Sadie问她为何,她说自己的职业不适合有男朋友。即使她没有去找一个男友,就已经开始为对方考虑了,谁会期望自己的另一半是AV演员呢。
孤寡老人Sadie,孤独,念旧,渴望亲情和友情却怕再次失去。
老人喜欢有年头的事物,喜欢自己房子里乱糟糟、破烂的旧物品,喜欢门前长得张牙舞爪的老树,喜欢自己多年经营的花园,喜欢自己几十年来收集的关于巴黎的一切。
这些也许记载着自己逝去的生活与青春,也许让Sadie睹物思人,她的生活也就只剩下了回忆。没有新的事物,没有期待,没有未来。
直到Jane和Starlet的出现。
刚开始,像所有失去挚爱的老人一样,Sadie猜测着,怀疑着,躲避着,不接受Jane主动伸出的双手。最终还是被Jane的诚挚和不懈所感动。接纳了这段友谊。
Starlet走失时,Sadie十分惊慌失措、焦虑惶恐,虽然其中必然有对Starlet的担忧,但更多的是怕因此失去与Jane间的情谊。她无法再承受更多了,她不想又一次体验失去亲友的痛苦了。为此宁愿从未有过友谊。
一老一少两人差别许多,一个青春不再、孤苦伶仃,一个青春靓丽、阳光活泼,但他们的真实、善良却又是相同的。
没有花言巧语,没有做作的煽情,真情饱含在朴实的语言中,流露于两手相握的那一刻,那是一切尽在不言中的一刻,是无言而感人的一刻。
也许伸长脖子,挥起拳头,鼻涕眼泪一把抓,声嘶力竭地大喊:"I care about you so mush! But you..."这样的表演会让观众能够很明白地理解导演想要表达什么,但来得还是虚假无力了。
而像《待绽蔷薇》这样平淡的演绎中,才真正让人对此真情有所感悟。
4 ) 我一直相信的是,心脏是温暖的。
早上起来,睁开双眼,阳光暖暖,微风吹动窗帘,珍在指尖点起一支烟,烟雾袅袅。
《待绽蔷薇》,又名《明日女优》。淡黄色的画面,满是温情的味道,不知道你看到这部电影时是怎样一种感觉,我只是觉得很安静,就像清风抚平了心里的躁动,安安静静的抱着电脑坐在床上,没有喧闹没有烦闷。
珍是一个从事情色电影行业的年轻女孩子,不成名不富有,但也是不沉沦不放弃。她对生活是有想法的,比如改造租住的房子,让其更贴近自己的风格。我喜欢这样热爱生活的人。这样的女孩子很有感觉,就算此时的她默默无闻,但是我相信她一定会有光芒万丈的未来。
故事的起始就是改造房间时购得的一个旧暖水瓶,珍说这会是一个很好的花瓶,其实这是一个很好的储钱罐吧!里面装了一万美金。
天上掉馅饼,你怎么办?
走路捡到钱,你会还吗?
别说的大义凛然,也不要鄙视其他人拾金不昧,那都是个人品质,与己无关。
珍花了一部分,却发现自己并不能心安理得的享用这笔不义之财,于是她接近sadie,旧水瓶的旧主人。
对于突然出现在身边的人,我们会戒备。这个老太太一直独居,这个女孩看起来居心不良。两个人的相处充满试探,然后慢慢靠近,彼此接受。
我喜欢这个故事。
因为这个故事是温暖的。
人与人之间是可以有信任和真心的。
就算年龄是不可跨越的鸿沟,陌生的两代人也可以做彼此生命中的知己。一起玩bingo,一起逛超市,一起去巴黎。
在草木繁茂的花园里,阳光明媚,岁月静好。
我们常常看见的忘年交都是在别人的故事里,你羡慕过吗?
以利相交,利尽则散;以势相交,势去则倾;以权相交,权失则弃;唯以心相交,方能成其久远。
这个世界上有太多凉薄了,而我一直相信的是,心脏是温暖的。孤独的人们都不愿意让人发现自己的处境,封闭自己,独处孤寒。
珍惜岁月里路过我们的温暖,毕竟生命苦短。
5 ) 很久没看温情电影了必须说点什么
看这部电影的原因只是因为当时它在人人影视的首页,而且个人喜欢西方电影以人名(这部剧里面是女主狗狗的名字)或者普通名词来命名影片,虽然翻译成中文经常变成四字短语什么的,还以偏正短语居多== 往往更形象但是始终失去了原本简单到包含一切的感觉【当然只是个人看法,而且貌似扯得有点远。。
下面回到影片本身,之所以温情是因为描述的是独居老人Sadie和年轻女孩Jane的友情,虽然这段友谊刚开始的动机不纯:Jane买下了老人的旧水瓶,却惊讶地发现里面藏着的一万块钱,但她确实试着想还回去,而且试图在生活中做到补偿老人。刚开始,老人对她非常抵触,当然这也是人之常情,年纪轻轻的女孩整天跟在独居老太的背后还想办法搭讪这不是骗子是什么。个人认为两人真正的友情展现始于那次超市之行,Jane没能及时出现在约定地点,Sadie自己默默地往回走。后来找到Sadie的Jane在车上默默牵起了老人的手,想必那时候观众也都明白正如她所说的,Jane无论如何是不会丢下老人的,阳光洒下,这是我觉得影片里最温情的一瞬。
本以为两人的友谊就这么平淡地发展下去,但是朋友间照看宠物的行为却让Sadie产生了对失去的恐惧,可以说是再一次产生这种深深地恐惧。小狗意外的丢失,老人几近崩溃的寻找,这段看的我直流泪TTATT 联系到影片结尾,失去十八岁的女儿,又失去了丈夫,只剩自己孤身一人。如今这段友情她要不起,也承受不了Jane的托付,只是因为怕失去,而这,是她再也承受不了的。
影片的结尾我很喜欢,虽然愤怒的Melisa告知了老人所谓“真相”,而且在老人重新整理旅行箱的时候我确实有了“天哪!不会不去巴黎了吧!”的担忧,但是老人还是最终彻底敞开心扉,让Jane自己看了老人丈夫及女儿的墓碑【这段镜头先是让观众与Jane同样陷入迷惑。结尾导演并没有给出关于两个人的答案,但是当我看到这里时,心里留下的只有乐观。毕竟,友谊是同时滋润两个人的,一起经历的种种,真真假假,大概也只有当事人才能体会。
回头一想,无论是对于高龄独身的老人,还是拮据的年轻女孩,一万块真的不如一段真正的友谊来的珍贵。
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个人很喜欢影片中的人物塑造,真实,丰满。Jane确实是个女优,而且影片也完完全全不带掩饰地展示出来了,这是她的工作,也是整个人物的一部分。但这丝毫没有影响她内心的善良,她真实、立体、不容忽视。即使是有些自私、不可理喻的Melisa也有她脆弱,让人产生共鸣的一面。当她发现Jane藏起来的钱之后,我本以为“完了!她肯定要把这些统统花光了!”但是实际上,她还是把大部分的钱又放了回去,并且在心里默默期待其实Jane是拿她当真正的朋友,Jane内心也是希望把钱能花在她身上的,这种想法,也不免让人生出几分怜惜。。
6 ) 最初的美好
“ Starlet”是小明星的意思,是女主Jane怀揣小梦想初到大城市保有的一点小愿望。她生活不易,却不苟且: 她善良于是寄养小狗;她热爱生活,于是添置家私;意外地得到一万美金却不挥霍, 否则开片10分钟就剧终了。
她不因得到不义之财就停工,而是继续自己的生活节奏。只是保有的内疚让她想把这笔钱拥有得更心安理得些,所以回去找Sadie确定她对这笔钱不知情,也想方设法尽力弥补。如果说最初的接触和帮助是为了还债,那么看到Sadie丈夫和女儿墓碑后,她会给这个脾气阴晴不定,瘦小倔强的老太太一个大大的拥抱,开始疼爱照顾她,挽手去看巴黎铁塔。
另一方,Sadie深知世上没有无缘无故的爱。如果说最初Jane接近她,让她有所警觉,那么得知真相后,她反而可以更坦然地面对Jane。这些日子的相处不是用钞票可以衡量的,况且钱财对Sadie毫无意义。如果说一万美金可以换来一个素不相识的女孩在你有限的生命里亲近你,进入你的生活,带你回忆过去,帮你完成梦想,给你死寂的生活带来一些动静,为什么要将她拒之门外呢?
有的时候,真相不是那么重要,只要认准那份最初的美好就够了。
暖黄色的色调,很明朗,温暖,很符合小清新的感觉。演员们全程演技在线,老奶奶和德丽的情感其实也温暖了他们两个自己吧。很适合一个人午后静静地看。
很好的故事. 画面美. 素颜女主美绝了!特别是她无限长美腿啊啊啊!
简在展台后面绽放着微笑、在床上表演着高潮,放纵春光却从不觉得自己被需要。唯有跟老太晒着太阳,听她聊起年轻时的那场动物园求婚,简才真正像个少女一样怀春,愿有人待她如此。从超市接她回家、陪她玩宾果、带她去巴黎,只有与她相伴才真切感受自己被需要。青花暖瓶里藏着一根引信,绽放了她的生活。
我们带着创伤生活,就像蔷薇的刺。我们可以预防失去,却学不会对爱免疫。
矫情又做作,豆瓣小清新的脑残评分
敢拿钱敢拍片敢真操,洗
其实是个对老套路做了细致修正改良之后的结果,中后段钝感明显,整体可看度还是挺高的。边缘人+限制级噱头,似乎是肖恩贝克标配啊。
⒈《橘色》后再接再厉观看《待绽蔷薇》,发现肖恩·贝克作品的配乐再次挺对我的耳口,虽然这部里面反复使用同一段配乐;⒉妈妈咪呀,女主竟然是海明威的亲曾孙女;⒊不用借位而是真操实干的AV戏份,真是让我吃了一惊;⒋亲爱的眼睛,对不起,在你犯困想休息的时候,还让你坚持看完电影,辛苦你了!……
她死了?我怎么没有看出来?
Starlet 是Sean Baker自家的吉娃娃。老太太也是从小就想做演员,70多年后终于如愿以偿,饰演一个老太太,懵懂或睿智,一切似乎都刚刚好。绝美的结尾。
肖恩贝克早期作品,初心未变,后期的电影都是源于这里的根源。依旧喜欢肖恩贝克对边缘人的关注和情感处理,他有自己的一套人际关系和情感的处理方式,很吵很流行但也最能触及人心。女主是海明威孙女还蛮惊讶的。
一万刀能换到的,我想象不到更多了
年度最佳温情+意外结局啊 PS女主竟然是海明威孙女
暖瓶温水,至清至澈。先看<橘色>,待绽<蔷薇>,一切刚刚之好。肖恩贝克不光有两把刷子,还有两个一样的瓶子。一个盛水,一个装酒。一个复古精致,一个小巧玲珑。一个暖阳春光,一个花枝招展。一个是平平静静的和和气气,一个是吵吵闹闹的和和美美。这才是生活。克制的胜利。
海明威还有这么漂亮的曾外孙女啊?!
视角还挺有想法的
真的是好干净的一部片子,女孩与老人的交心过程,两人心照不宣地知道了一些对方的秘密。海明威孙女的腿好正,Besedka 演得很出色。女优这个设定可能就是为了与 Jane 在日常生活中的单纯善良形成落差,不过 AV 床戏部分真是太大尺度了,简直一览无余。
爱丽·帕克再现,基调暖了很多,可惜女主演技没有Naomi那样出神入化。
淡黃的色調也很好看。整個故事線沒有那麼集中,但最後的抒情比他其他的作品都要用力。
意外的很好看啊 虽然镜头色调太像mv什么的吧 但是故事表演都超级舒服啊 女主是海明威的曾孙女你们都知道了 老太太拍完这片就死了你们也知道了 但是你们知道那个和她拍毛片的就是我昔日偶像Manuel Ferrara大神嘛!以为james deen和lilo拍文艺片就够高端了 manuel哥哥比他更厉害啊 果然法国人就是品味好